Common Design in a Nutshell
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Common design is observed all throughout our technological world.
That is because of standards that allow technology to work together.
For example many different printers will work with one PC- that is due to a common design.
Most PCs are very similar due to a common design.
Most cars are very similar due to a common design.
The list of such things is very long.
There isn't any need to keep re-inventing things, most times there are standards that must be adhered to and those standards drive the common design.
Designers can (and do) also take a part being used for one function in one system and use it for another function in another system.
So that is common design in a nutshell...
Common design is observed all throughout our technological world.
That is because of standards that allow technology to work together.
For example many different printers will work with one PC- that is due to a common design.
Most PCs are very similar due to a common design.
Most cars are very similar due to a common design.
The list of such things is very long.
There isn't any need to keep re-inventing things, most times there are standards that must be adhered to and those standards drive the common design.
Designers can (and do) also take a part being used for one function in one system and use it for another function in another system.
So that is common design in a nutshell...
posted by Joe G @ 9:24 AM
75 Comments:
At 5:19 PM,
Rich Hughes said…
Religion and ID are very similar due to common design.
At 5:55 PM,
Joe G said…
That is strange seeing that ID doesn't have anything to do with religion.
IOW Rich add common design to the mountain of things you are ignorant of.
At 12:58 AM,
blipey said…
Um...
Religion. Designed.
ID. Designed.
Similar.
At 10:11 AM,
Joe G said…
The theory of evolution- designed.
Religion- designed
Therefor by blipey's logic they are similar...
At 10:29 AM,
Joe G said…
religion:
1 a : the state of a religious (a nun in her 20th year of religion) b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
Nothing to do with ID there.
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
Nothing to do with ID there either.
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
Now those two fit evotards and the theory of evolution
At 12:00 PM,
blipey said…
Not my argument, Joe. Yours. Apparently common design explains many (all?) things. So yes, according to Design Theory, Religion and Evolution are similar.
ID and Religion are similar.
ID and Evolution are similar.
ID and a Buick are similar.
Evolution and "43 GUT, SLAM Left" are similar.
Perhaps now you see the deficiency of Common Design?
Thought not.
At 2:07 PM,
Joe G said…
Not my argument, Joe.
Not my argument Erik.
YOU said it.
And you said it because you are a twisted freak.
Apparently common design explains many (all?) things.
Apparently you don't know what you are talking about so you just make shit up.
However your position of "It's all just accidents" supposedly explains all things.
So yes, according to Design Theory, Religion and Evolution are similar.
Nope- not according to design theory- according to what we observe.
Perhaps now you see the deficiency of Common Design?
Common Design isn't deficient just because you can act like an asshole.
Common design is based on observations and experiences.
However Universal Common Descent is deficient because it is not based on anything but wishful thinking.
At 3:05 PM,
blipey said…
Why are animals similar?
Common Design.
Why are the rules of physics similar?
Common Design.
Why do all mammals breathe oxygen?
Common Design.
See, Joe it's the answer to everything.
Your argument (you believe those things). Not mine. (I believe none of those things.)
Please try to keep track of who believes what. Especially if one of those whos is you.
At 3:09 PM,
blipey said…
Or:
Humans designed the Theory of ID.
Humans designed the Theory of Evolution.
Humans designed a Buick.
Humans designed "WHEEL 32 Left FLY".
All of these things have a common component. Therefor, all of these things are similar.
Man. Common Design has uncanny explanatory power.
I can't think of one thing it doesn't explain. Cool.
At 5:15 PM,
Joe G said…
Why are animals similar?
Common descent.
Why do all mammals breathe oxygen?
Common descent
See Common Descent splains evevrything!
Why are the rules of physics similar?
They are?
Why are there rules of physics?
Accidents!
See your position splains everything.
Geez I can't think of anything it doesn't splain!
At 11:05 PM,
blipey said…
Joe, why do you insert new material in old comments as if you had made those statements in the first place?
You should really make a note of inserted material (you now, for ethical reasons).
For example, you added these paragraphs after reading my comments below them:
JoeG's added material:
"Common design is based on observations and experiences.
However Universal Common Descent is deficient because it is not based on anything but wishful thinking."
At 11:06 PM,
blipey said…
So, you are saying that you don't believe in common design?
Very confusing.
At 9:07 AM,
Joe G said…
So, you are saying that you don't believe in common design?
I accept it as a fact of life based on observations and experiences.
At 9:10 AM,
Joe G said…
Joe, why do you insert new material in old comments as if you had made those statements in the first place?
I didn't insert new material into old comments.
For example, you added these paragraphs after reading my comments below them:
You are lying.
JoeG's added material:
"Common design is based on observations and experiences.
However Universal Common Descent is deficient because it is not based on anything but wishful thinking."
Nope that was ALWAYS part of that comment.
At 9:35 AM,
Joe G said…
Common Design isn't deficient just because you can act like an asshole.
At 9:41 AM,
blipey said…
So, Common Design explains the things you would like it to explain, but the explanation it gives for stupid things aren't really explanations?
Common Design explains the animal kingdom. Common Design explains automobiles. Yet Common Design does not explain the similarities between ID and Religion?
Why?
At 2:15 PM,
Joe G said…
So, Common Design explains the things you would like it to explain,
So you have no idea what you are talking about and you think that just because you can act like an asshole that somehow refutes common design.
Common Design explains the animal kingdom.
Nope.
Common Design explains automobiles.
Nope.
Yet Common Design does not explain the similarities between ID and Religion?
What similarities?
Please be specific.
At 2:23 PM,
Joe G said…
Common descent explains the animal kingdom.
Common descent explains the plant kngdom.
Common descent explains fungi
Common decent- with a little HGT and viral infections thrown in- explains all living organisms.
Lucky accidents explains all existence.
At 12:11 AM,
blipey said…
Common Design does not explain the similarities in the animal kingdom? That is your stance?
At 7:38 AM,
Joe G said…
Common Design does not explain the similarities in the animal kingdom?
Keep moving the goalposts.
You had said:
Common Design explains the animal kingdom.
Now you have changed that to:
Common Design does not explain the similarities in the animal kingdom?
Can you be any more of an intellectual coward?
At 11:46 AM,
blipey said…
Perhaps you can explain this:
JoeG (from OP): "Most cars are very similar due to a common design."
Later in the thread:
Blipey: "Common Design explains automobiles."
JoeG: "Nope."
At 11:49 AM,
blipey said…
Context, Joe. Context. You like to complain that no one ever reads you for context, for what you're really saying. Aw, poor baby.
Why is it that you can't follow along, Joe.
We're talking about similarities in things: you know the animal kingdom, cars, religion, ToE, football plays, etc.
So, shut up and tell us why you think that Common Design both explains these similarities and doesn't explain these similarities at the same time.
At 11:50 AM,
Joe G said…
Design explains automobiles and common design explains why they are similar.
At 11:55 AM,
blipey said…
Right. Humans designed religion. Humans designed ToE. Humans designed ID. They are similar.
At 12:02 PM,
Joe G said…
Humans designed religion. Humans designed ToE. Humans designed ID. They are similar.
So they are similar just because humans designed each of them?
That is about as retarded a response as I have ever heard...
At 12:07 PM,
Joe G said…
We're talking about similarities in things:
No Erik- YOU are proving what an ignorant fuck-head you are...
At 12:20 PM,
blipey said…
The tread started out talking about similarities, Joe. We can read.
Why aren't Religion, ToE, and ID similar? Perhaps you should actually codify what you mean by Common Design. (Unless, of course, you mean stuff that looks alike...nah, couldn't be that....)
At 12:27 PM,
Joe G said…
Why aren't Religion, ToE, and ID similar?
What are the similarities?
Perhaps you should actually codify what you mean by Common Design.
I did- you are just too stupid to understand it.
At 12:41 PM,
Joe G said…
IEEE- standards for your enjoyment- standards that drive common design
At 2:48 PM,
blipey said…
Hmmm. Religion. Designed by humans in order to try to understand the beginnings of life. ID. Designed by humans in order to try to understand the beginnings of life. ToE. Designed by humans in order to try to understand the beginnings of life.
This is simple stuff, Joe. Those 13 year olds probably grasped this immediately.
At 4:37 PM,
Joe G said…
Religion. Designed by humans in order to try to understand the beginnings of life.
Never heard of that.
ID. Designed by humans in order to try to understand the beginnings of life.
Never heard of that.
ToE. Designed by humans in order to try to understand the beginnings of life.
Nope the ToE doesn't say anything about the beginnings of life.
Geez 13 year olds understand that.
At 1:48 AM,
blipey said…
Come on, Joe. Read the ID sites. ToE is all about the OoL (except when it's not), but mostly it is!
Secondly, Greek Mythology (religion): many origin of life stories.
Hebrew Mythology (religion): explains the origins of man.
Aztec Mythology (religion): many stories about the origins of man.
Easy stuff here, Joe.
So:
1. Religion designed by man in order to understand the origins of life
2. ToE (I'm working with the general understanding of the ID crowd here--because you guys are right!) designed by man in order to understand the origins of life.
3. ID designed by man in order to understand the origins of life.
Similar.
At 9:31 AM,
Joe G said…
Come on, Joe. Read the ID sites. ToE is all about the OoL (except when it's not), but mostly it is!
The ToE is not about the origins of living organisms.
Secondly, Greek Mythology (religion): many origin of life stories.
Hebrew Mythology (religion): explains the origins of man.
Aztec Mythology (religion): many stories about the origins of man.
References please.
Also a reference that says mythology = religion.
1. Religion designed by man in order to understand the origins of life
I know of religions that don't do that.
2. ToE (I'm working with the general understanding of the ID crowd here--because you guys are right!) designed by man in order to understand the origins of life.
That is false.
3. ID designed by man in order to understand the origins of life
That is also false.
At 1:05 PM,
blipey said…
I understand that you probably didn't pay attention is school much, Joe--but really....
Hebrew Mythology, please reference the Bible (any version you'd like). God created the Earth, the Heavens, Man out of clay, Woman out of Man's rib, and so on.
Jesus, you're dense.
Greek Mythology, please see the front display of any Barnes and Noble. Pick up any of the Greek Mythology collectors sets.
Aztec: Quetzalquatl looked down upon the waters and saw that a gigantic goddess was eating everything he created so he divided himself into giant serpents to restrain her, out of this struggle came the mountains and seas, etc. Not hard to find, Joe.
Alright, Joe. What was ID designed to do?
What was religion designed to do?
What was ToE designed to do? (This one can either be taken from the ID posters at UD--you might want to consult with them about ToE and OoL--or you can actually use a sane definition of ToE).
At 6:00 PM,
Joe G said…
1- Mythology does not equal religion
2- Some religions may have been based on mythology but that is another story.
3- Hebrews only reference the Torah- not the Bible.
IOE Erik you are dense and a fucking liar.
Alright, Joe. What was ID designed to do?
To explain some things we observe.
What was religion designed to do?
To help control the masses.
What was ToE designed to do?
To explain the diversity of living organisms.
At 11:55 AM,
blipey said…
Have we figured out what the Torah is yet? And in what different references one might find a copy of it?
At 12:15 PM,
Joe G said…
blipey:
Have we figured out what the Torah is yet?
Have you?
You are the one who didn't know what it was.
Have you figured out that mythology does not equal religion?
Have you figured out that you are an ignorant asshole?
At 10:00 AM,
blipey said…
I believe we established that I know what the Torah is and gave examples of actual stories in it.
I believe we established that you don't think that we can find the Torah in a copy of the Bible.
I'll let the facts speak for themselves.
At 11:53 AM,
Joe G said…
blipey:
I believe we established that I know what the Torah is and gave examples of actual stories in it.
Perhaps NOW you know however if you knew before you would have said:
Hebrew Mythology, please reference the Torah.
You didn't.
You fucked up.
Deal with it.
I believe we established that you don't think that we can find the Torah in a copy of the Bible.
I believe we have established that you are an ignorant piece of shit and an intellectual coward.
At 12:08 AM,
blipey said…
Can we or can we not find the Torah in a copy of the Bible?
Yes or no, Joe.
At 12:09 AM,
blipey said…
Can we or can we not find a copy of Sonnet 118 in Shakespeare's Complete Works?
If you can answer this question, you may be able to free associate enough to start having intelligent conversations.
At 7:46 AM,
Joe G said…
So wittle Ewik gets caught spewing bullshit and now muist try to distract from that fact by continuing to act like an asshole.
Go figure...
blipey:
If you can answer this question, you may be able to free associate enough to start having intelligent conversations.
Unfortunately no one can have an intelligent conversation with you.
You don't understand that YOU are the problem and I find that fucking hilarious.
At 7:49 AM,
Joe G said…
blipey sez that mythology = religion.
It does not.
blipey thinks that ID = religion
It does not.
blipey can only act like an asshole because it can't do anything else.
bye-bye ewik- unless you can get back on-topic.
At 7:03 PM,
blipey said…
You forgot to answer the question. I'll remind you:
Can you find the Torah in a copy of the Bible?
yes or no.
At 9:28 PM,
Joe G said…
I could not find any reference of the Torah in the Bible.
But that is beside the point.
Had you known what you were talking about you would have said:
Hebrew Mythology, please reference the Torah.
So eat shit asshole
At 9:30 PM,
blipey said…
You are stupider than I thought. You're claiming that you cannot find the Torah in contained in the Bible. Try running that by any comparative religions professor.
You are truly a piece of shit.
But really, send me the results of your inquiry with the religions professor. You have my email. I eagerly await an email telling me I'm wrong.
At 10:54 AM,
Joe G said…
Listen fuck-head YOU fucked up.
You should have said the Torah and you didn't.
You think mythology = religion and it doesn't.
You think ID = religion and it doesn't.
All you spew is ignorant shit and you think it is meaningful discourse.
And when your ignorant spewage isn't enough you start in with false accusations.
But I understand- you are a clown and that is all you have- ignorance and lies.
At 11:28 AM,
blipey said…
So that's on the record now?
"Joe Gallien claims that you cannot find the Torah in a copy of the Bible."
You might not want to publish this blog's address anywhere....
Oh, oops.
At 11:32 AM,
Joe G said…
Good thing you have already said that you are a clown and should not be taken seriously...
At 10:40 AM,
blipey said…
Good. Confirmed.
According to Joe Gallien it is impossible to find the Torah in a copy of the Bible.
And you expect us to take anything you say seriously....
At 10:41 AM,
blipey said…
Oh. Oh. Oh! How bout this one?
Can you find references to Jews in the Bible?
We could all learn something now!
At 11:45 AM,
Joe G said…
Great- confirmed- when corrected Erik Pratt acts like a little cry-baby in need of a diaper change.
According to Joe Gallien it is impossible to find the Torah in a copy of the Bible.
Funny that I never said nor implied anything of the kind.
That is why no one takes you seriously clownie-
1- You are a clown
2- You are a lying piece of shit
3- You act like a cry baby every time you get corrected- which is every time you post
At 12:10 PM,
Joe G said…
to recap:
blipey sed:
Hebrew Mythology, please reference the Bible (any version you'd like).
All I did is correct the weak-minded fool:
3- Hebrews only reference the Torah- not the Bible.
Ya see the majority of the Bible has nothing to do with the Torah.
Now had clownie said the old testament- that would have been OK, but still would have shown some ignorance.
The point being is if you are going to refeence some culture then do it with their stuff- stuff they use.
Had blipey been addressing Hebrews they would have said the same thing I did.
But little Erik, having a very little penis, gets all upset when his ignorance is exposed.
At 6:17 PM,
blipey said…
I'm not upset, Joe. You never make me upset; you're not that cool. Please tell me about Clos des Cortons. While referencing the Wine Bible, please know that you cannot find anything relevant in it (apparently you would have to cite the Wines of Burgandy?). Actually, you may not get any reference there either, needing instead to go the Grand Crus Wines book?
I guess it's hard to find anything on Clos des Cortons. In JoeTard's world nothing in The Wine Bible would reference it--even though it represents some of the finest red wine in the world.
How do you ever look anything up Joe? It must be a pain in the ass to reference anything from a 1973 Firebird (can't find it in a catalog of American motor vehicles?) to a watermelon (surely not in a compendium food?).
At 6:18 PM,
blipey said…
Oh, that's right! My bad. You don't ever reference anything (except occasionally your own blog).
At 6:23 PM,
Joe G said…
wittle ewik:
I'm not upset, Joe. You never make me upset; you're not that cool.
No you just throw hissy-fit temper tantrums for no reason.
What a clown you are!
LoL!!!!
At 6:24 PM,
blipey said…
LOLs are like nicknames, Joe. you can't give yourself one.
At 6:25 PM,
Joe G said…
blipey:
Oh, that's right! My bad. You don't ever reference anything
So you never get tired of projecting nor lying.
Got it...
But you're not upset, you just act like an asshole all the time.
Sweet
At 6:27 PM,
Joe G said…
blipey:
LOLs are like nicknames, Joe. you can't give yourself one.
People do it all the time.
Again- your ignorance is meaningless...
At 6:28 PM,
blipey said…
try to think laterally, Joe. Really, a little liberal arts in your life would do you a world of good.
At 6:44 PM,
Joe G said…
Try to think, ewik.
A good kick in the ass would do you a world of good...
At 11:35 PM,
blipey said…
And...
scene.
At 9:43 AM,
Joe G said…
That's a take-
we have clownie unable to stay on-topic, unable to support its claims and throwing a hissy-fit tantrum all in one thread
Good job people, that's a wrap...
At 7:12 PM,
blipey said…
That was done in the comment immediately before yours, Joe.
Besides the complete lack of sanity and facts, this (in my opinion) is the main reason you IDiots fail in courts and scientific arenas.
You don't know how to progress a story arc. Really, I know you despise the arts, but you could benefit greatly by studying them.
Originality and continuation of action seem beyond the grasp of you people. It's sad.
At 7:19 PM,
Joe G said…
No it wasn't.
I didn't read any of those facts in your post:
we have clownie unable to stay on-topic, unable to support its claims and throwing a hissy-fit tantrum all in one thread
You think you know but you are really an imbecile.
And reality says you are the idiot because you still can't produce any positive evidebnce for your position
At 8:02 PM,
Joe G said…
blipey:
That was done in the comment immediately before yours, Joe.
No, you don't get it you dullard.
Your post was part of the scene.
Those were the last words uttered by the lead imbecile- you.
Ya see it's right here in the script- you didn't really think you were directing, did you?
Now that is funny!!!
You ARE a clown!
Good one.
At 8:43 PM,
blipey said…
In dire need of an editor. Please stick to the things you're good at; stay away from script writing.
At 8:52 PM,
Joe G said…
Oh look- the upset clown is having another evotardgasm...
At 9:37 PM,
blipey said…
Just trying to focus your obvious intelligence on useful things:
Like describing a non-designed universe.
It's a shame to see such a powerful tool randomly firing at unimportant things.
At 7:01 AM,
Joe G said…
Oh look the upset clown is having another evotardgasm!
At 8:19 AM,
Joe G said…
blipey:
Just trying to focus your obvious intelligence on useful things:
Like describing a non-designed universe.
So you need my intellignce to describe YOUR position?
That ain't useful
It's a shame to see such a powerful tool randomly firing at unimportant things.
Seeing you are the most unimportant thing I am firing at you should leave and stay away.
That is if what you said is really true.
At 12:50 AM,
blipey said…
Surely you must have found something about non-designed universes to cut an paste by now. Can you share it, or is it ultra-top-zip-your-lips secret?
At 7:14 AM,
Joe G said…
blipey:
Surely you must have found something about non-designed universes to cut an paste by now.
Yes YOU should have.
What seems to be YOUR problem?
At 10:28 AM,
blipey said…
Take your favorite passage from PP and scan it into a PDF file. Post the PDF file as your proof. It's pretty easy. Or any other way you'd like to do it.
Describe a non-designed universe.
At 10:53 AM,
Joe G said…
Describe a non-designed universe
we are waiting on YOU Erik...
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